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	<title>Comments on: Review of &#8220;ANSI Common Lisp&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Everything You Need To Get Started With Common Lisp &#124; So Jake Says</title>
		<link>http://www.jakevoytko.com/blog/2008/07/14/review-of-ansi-common-lisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9884</link>
		<dc:creator>Everything You Need To Get Started With Common Lisp &#124; So Jake Says</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 3) A Lisp tutorial or reference. I highly recommend &#8220;ANSI Common Lisp&#8221; by Paul Graham [see my review]. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 3) A Lisp tutorial or reference. I highly recommend &#8220;ANSI Common Lisp&#8221; by Paul Graham [see my review]. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lisp is Changing My C++ &#124; So Jake Says</title>
		<link>http://www.jakevoytko.com/blog/2008/07/14/review-of-ansi-common-lisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9864</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisp is Changing My C++ &#124; So Jake Says</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 04:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up, Graham. I taught myself from &#8220;ANSI Common Lisp&#8220;. At first, I attacked the problems in the book from a C++ perspective, trying to wedge loops [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] up, Graham. I taught myself from &#8220;ANSI Common Lisp&#8220;. At first, I attacked the problems in the book from a C++ perspective, trying to wedge loops [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.jakevoytko.com/blog/2008/07/14/review-of-ansi-common-lisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9793</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly second the recommendation for Practical Common Lisp.  I own it as well as both of PG&#039;s books and I think it&#039;s a significantly better introduction to the language and develops a reasonable-scale application through its course.  Seibel of course had the benefit of PG&#039;s books coming first, but I think he really did do a better job with teaching Lisp than previous books.  I&#039;d still recommend to anyone learning CL buying ANSI Common Lisp and downloading On Lisp if you can&#039;t find it, but Practical Common Lisp is the place to start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly second the recommendation for Practical Common Lisp.  I own it as well as both of PG&#8217;s books and I think it&#8217;s a significantly better introduction to the language and develops a reasonable-scale application through its course.  Seibel of course had the benefit of PG&#8217;s books coming first, but I think he really did do a better job with teaching Lisp than previous books.  I&#8217;d still recommend to anyone learning CL buying ANSI Common Lisp and downloading On Lisp if you can&#8217;t find it, but Practical Common Lisp is the place to start.</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
		<link>http://www.jakevoytko.com/blog/2008/07/14/review-of-ansi-common-lisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9792</link>
		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy L. Steele&#039;s &quot;Common Lisp: the language 2nd Ed.&quot; may also be of use to you.  The book is found here: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/Groups/AI/html/cltl/cltl2.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy L. Steele&#8217;s &#8220;Common Lisp: the language 2nd Ed.&#8221; may also be of use to you.  The book is found here: <a href="http://www.cs.cmu.edu/Groups/AI/html/cltl/cltl2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cs.cmu.edu/Groups/AI/html/cltl/cltl2.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Martin C. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.jakevoytko.com/blog/2008/07/14/review-of-ansi-common-lisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9791</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin C. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might want to read Paul Graham&#039;s &quot;On Lisp&quot;, which is available free at:

http://www.paulgraham.com/onlisp.html

He wrote it before ANSI Common Lisp, and it covers the more advanced topics in Lisp, mostly metaprogramming, but also functional programming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to read Paul Graham&#8217;s &#8220;On Lisp&#8221;, which is available free at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.paulgraham.com/onlisp.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.paulgraham.com/onlisp.html</a></p>
<p>He wrote it before ANSI Common Lisp, and it covers the more advanced topics in Lisp, mostly metaprogramming, but also functional programming.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Reed</title>
		<link>http://www.jakevoytko.com/blog/2008/07/14/review-of-ansi-common-lisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9790</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice review.  I&#039;ve also decided to learn Lisp this summer, although I ended up going with Practical Common Lisp as a text instead.

I&#039;d like to point out that while Peter Norvig still recommends Paradigms of Artificial Intelligence Programming as a Lisp text, he no longer recommends it as an AI text and instead the more recent book he cowrote, Artificial Intelligence: A Modern Approach [ http://norvig.com/Lisp-retro.html end of the article]  It tends to be light on the programming and mostly use pseudo code, but it is an excellent AI text that covers a lot of area.  Unless you really, really want it as a Lisp book here, I&#039;d recommend this AI: A Modern Approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice review.  I&#8217;ve also decided to learn Lisp this summer, although I ended up going with Practical Common Lisp as a text instead.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to point out that while Peter Norvig still recommends Paradigms of Artificial Intelligence Programming as a Lisp text, he no longer recommends it as an AI text and instead the more recent book he cowrote, Artificial Intelligence: A Modern Approach [ <a href="http://norvig.com/Lisp-retro.html" rel="nofollow">http://norvig.com/Lisp-retro.html</a> end of the article]  It tends to be light on the programming and mostly use pseudo code, but it is an excellent AI text that covers a lot of area.  Unless you really, really want it as a Lisp book here, I&#8217;d recommend this AI: A Modern Approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Paston-Cooper</title>
		<link>http://www.jakevoytko.com/blog/2008/07/14/review-of-ansi-common-lisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9789</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Paston-Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m working at a company that uses Lisp, as an intern, this summer. I wouldn&#039;t recommend ANSI Common Lisp as a book from which to teach programming to oneself, but I definitely find it to be a very good reference book. I find a lot that many of the definitions given in the Hyperspec are not descriptive enough, or maybe sometimes rather cryptic. It definitely explains things well, and I&#039;d recommend it to anyone who does a lot of programming in Lisp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working at a company that uses Lisp, as an intern, this summer. I wouldn&#8217;t recommend ANSI Common Lisp as a book from which to teach programming to oneself, but I definitely find it to be a very good reference book. I find a lot that many of the definitions given in the Hyperspec are not descriptive enough, or maybe sometimes rather cryptic. It definitely explains things well, and I&#8217;d recommend it to anyone who does a lot of programming in Lisp.</p>
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		<title>By: Wavell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wavell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would recommend &quot;Practical Common Lisp&quot; but after seeing your other posts it looks like you are one of those guys that would probably like SICP and PAIP more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would recommend &#8220;Practical Common Lisp&#8221; but after seeing your other posts it looks like you are one of those guys that would probably like SICP and PAIP more.</p>
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		<title>By: waplington</title>
		<link>http://www.jakevoytko.com/blog/2008/07/14/review-of-ansi-common-lisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9787</link>
		<dc:creator>waplington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I really enjoyed your review.  

Paul Graham&#039;s other book &quot;On Lisp&quot; does cover closures in great detail and is available as a free pdf from his site.

With regard to the problem of finding &quot;the longest finite walk in a graph, cycles allowed&quot;: I think that what Paul intended is for you consider graphs that contain cycles - the walk should not contain a cycle itself.

Best of luck with Dr Norvig&#039;s tome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I really enjoyed your review.  </p>
<p>Paul Graham&#8217;s other book &#8220;On Lisp&#8221; does cover closures in great detail and is available as a free pdf from his site.</p>
<p>With regard to the problem of finding &#8220;the longest finite walk in a graph, cycles allowed&#8221;: I think that what Paul intended is for you consider graphs that contain cycles &#8211; the walk should not contain a cycle itself.</p>
<p>Best of luck with Dr Norvig&#8217;s tome!</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael Jansson</title>
		<link>http://www.jakevoytko.com/blog/2008/07/14/review-of-ansi-common-lisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9786</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikael Jansson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can highly recomend the book Practical Common Lisp, by Peter Seibel (http://gigamonkeys.com/book).  It was /the/ book that got me into Lisp. I got the hardcopy, but it&#039;s also freely available online.

(Disclaimer: I haven&#039;t read anything by PG yet, mostly because of criticism of his Lisp-style.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can highly recomend the book Practical Common Lisp, by Peter Seibel (<a href="http://gigamonkeys.com/book" rel="nofollow">http://gigamonkeys.com/book</a>).  It was /the/ book that got me into Lisp. I got the hardcopy, but it&#8217;s also freely available online.</p>
<p>(Disclaimer: I haven&#8217;t read anything by PG yet, mostly because of criticism of his Lisp-style.)</p>
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